Curse

Partizanovac · Jun 16, 2011, 03:46 PM // 15:46

beause insc weapons suck, nf ruined the game, the market, and the joy of nail biting experinece of identifying your req9 fellblade you got somewhere in tyria

period

Gabs88 · Jun 16, 2011, 04:22 PM // 16:22

Because at some point, no inscribable item holds any value anymore. If you and every single one of your friends can have one, or even ten at a whim. Then it stops being cool

Say Clockwork Scythes, they're rare end chest only drops from a EOTN Dungeon. Having one drop is extremely rare, but yet you can farm enough money to buy a Q9 one in 2-3 hours. Personally, I have 3. Customized and with different mods

Then look at say Outcast Shields, I've been wanting a nice one for years. Right now I got cons worth maybe 4-500e and 300+ ecto on my account. On top of lots of rare items, and lots of this, and lots of that, and some more this and that. Still, I can't buy one. Cause nobody is actually selling one I want. If the perfect one was to pop up in the market, I wouldn't have another opportunity to buy one for another year or so at best. Possibly it would take even more time then that too.

And guess what, there's probably 100 other guys also wanting one. 6-7 of them have enough cash to make a solid bid on it too.

So when one finally pops up, none of us care at all. New ecto you can always get, but another shield just like the one you want. Now that's worse

Then look at Q9 Bone Dragon Staves, ATM i have 2 monks, 2 mesmers, 2 ritualists and 1 MM in my hero team. Getting ahold of a nice BDS for each and every one of them would take me at most a week given that I have the money already.

Starting to see a pattern yet? At some point you run out of interesting things to buy and the only items you want are the ones that nobody is selling

the one you love to hate · Jun 16, 2011, 06:00 PM // 18:00

hey bright i should have asked if you wanted to buy this one for your collection. but i sold it last week... sorry

i'd like to see u get this out of an inscrip shield. perfect for pits...

D H U U U M · Jun 16, 2011, 06:17 PM // 18:17

for me both of them are the same cuz no one will see your weapon if its inscrip or not
they only see the skin XD

cataphract · Jun 17, 2011, 06:36 AM // 06:36

The point is not what others will see but the feeling you have wielding weapons you love and have invested a lot of effort in obtaining. No true collector will spam click his weapon sets to show off. They bought them for themselves, not for others.

Did I pay 1200e for a monk Bo Staff to show off?
No. I bought it because it was the first Bo to hit the market that had great stats and because I spent years looking for one.

Do I have to suppress laughter when someone wielding a BDS talks about rarity and how expensive it is?
Yes. Because it isn't rare and it sure isn't pretty.

superraptors · Jun 17, 2011, 09:34 AM // 09:34

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Originally Posted by cataphract

The point is not what others will see but the feeling you have wielding weapons you love and have invested a lot of effort in obtaining. No true collector will spam click his weapon sets to show off. They bought them for themselves, not for others.

Did I pay 1200e for a monk Bo Staff to show off?
No. I bought it because it was the first Bo to hit the market that had great stats and because I spent years looking for one.

Do I have to suppress laughter when someone wielding a BDS talks about rarity and how expensive it is?
Yes. Because it isn't rare and it sure isn't pretty.

got to disagree with bds looking crap, its one of the few decent skins, but there super common, then again its personal preference.

Rushin Roulette · Jun 17, 2011, 11:59 AM // 11:59

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Originally Posted by superraptors

got to disagree with bds looking crap, its one of the few decent skins, but there super common, then again its personal preference.

As you say, thats purely personal taste. I personally think a BDS looks like an anorexic lizzard with a big stick up ist a..e (although that seems to fit well with so many undernourished assassins running around with black BDS staves).

As it has been said. most really rare staves are uninscribable and have matching stats. Moste of the rarity is the skin droping in very limited areas adn not being something silly such as requires 13 Divine Favor with in inherrant 19% HCT Earth Magic... which to be honest is terribad and would show in any build that tries to capitalize on that.

D H U U U M · Jun 17, 2011, 12:09 PM // 12:09

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Originally Posted by cataphract

Did I pay 1200e for a monk Bo Staff to show off?
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OMG plz say u r kidding 1200e for bo staff its look very very very very normal skin. i maby noob but i always love strange weaps like bds//dhuum scyth /winter green sheild and spear

but i think it depend on ppl for their likes

Matrix Arcade · Jun 17, 2011, 01:06 PM // 13:06

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Originally Posted by D H U U U M

i maby noob

/trollface

OT: Pretty much what partizanovic said.

expugnare · Jun 17, 2011, 02:43 PM // 14:43

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Originally Posted by cataphract

Did I pay 1200e for a monk Bo Staff to show off?

Ooh, can I see it.

clear · Jun 17, 2011, 03:07 PM // 15:07

Collector weapons where it's at...

Essence Snow · Jun 17, 2011, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by cataphract

The point is not what others will see but the feeling you have wielding weapons you love and have invested a lot of effort in obtaining. No true collector will spam click his weapon sets to show off. They bought them for themselves, not for others.

Did I pay 1200e for a monk Bo Staff to show off?
No. I bought it because it was the first Bo to hit the market that had great stats and because I spent years looking for one.

Do I have to suppress laughter when someone wielding a BDS talks about rarity and how expensive it is?
Yes. Because it isn't rare and it sure isn't pretty.

Do I have to suppress laughter when someone admits to paying 1200e on a forum for a bo staff?
Yes. Because they grossly overpaid and tried to turn it into "I am better than them".

o m g pizowned · Jun 17, 2011, 04:54 PM // 16:54

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow

Do I have to suppress laughter when someone admits to paying 1200e on a forum for a bo staff?
Yes. Because they grossly overpaid and tried to turn it into "I am better than them".

Find another one and suppress all the laughter you want.

StueyG · Jun 17, 2011, 06:19 PM // 18:19

The ones that you should be laughing at are the people that paid that much to get the first BDS - and now there are loads of that exact same staff. In the case of that bo staff - there *might* be a handful of others. And then we could get into mini pets, and other things - bashing someone because they are willing to pay a lot for something rare = fail. The point was that there really are loads of idiots in the game that think a BDS and other inscription crap items are "rare" and they say it and talk it up in game all the time. Hardly anyone works to get something really nice anymore it is just handed to them. I appreciate rare old school items because I had to work hard to get them. Props to you cataphract for being proud of the fact that you actually WORKED to get something and did not just get the average inscription item like everyone else.

Way2dead · Jun 17, 2011, 06:45 PM // 18:45

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Originally Posted by D H U U U M

OMG plz say u r kidding 1200e for bo staff its look very very very very normal skin. i maby noob but i always love strange weaps like bds//dhuum scyth /winter green sheild and spear

but i think it depend on ppl for their likes

wtf, bo staff is awesome, also becuz of the dye.

I agree with stuey right here, there are just a lot of bds staves around, really common, i like it, but that's just personal preference like said above. Imo inscriptions just make items common. Like i said before, the mods you will find on an uninscr weapon needs to be matching and nice to make it something good, instead of just putting an inscription on it

carnage-runner · Jun 17, 2011, 06:54 PM // 18:54

Uninscribable or oldschool weapons are special for several reasons, lets break the two up first though. Uninscribable items are special because of peculiar inherent mods, and rarity in that if it isn't perfect on drop, it isn't going to change. Uninscribable items sometimes only come uninscribable and are therefor very rare to get with desired mods. Echovald Shield is a prime example.

Oldschool items are special because... well.. DUH. They no longer drop, and haven't dropped for a long time. They are special because they are exceedingly rare, and you can no longer get one as a drop, not to mention very few are still on active accounts.

So as is obviously clear, the special nature of these types of items is quite significant to some people. Of course, an inscribable longsword will perform just as well as an uninscribable longsword, but that uninscribable longsword was a cool drop for someone because it had perfect stats and a cool skin, not just because it was a cool skin.

cataphract · Jun 17, 2011, 07:01 PM // 19:01

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Originally Posted by superraptors

got to disagree with bds looking crap, its one of the few decent skins, but there super common, then again its personal preference.

What bothers me about BDS is not the fact it looks like crap but the fact it's smegged up balance wise. The gripping point is far too low for the staff to sit comfortably in character's hands and in current implementation everyone who wields one would be faceplanting all the time. Majority of the staff's weight is at its top and that's just bad design. Gripping point should be directly below the skull and above the ribcage in order for the staff to be in balance.

Bo Staff is simple and elegant. No unneccessary baggage. Nothing to upset its balance.

Btw, Bruce Lee would follow @bo_staff if he were alive. I think his was smiting req.

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Originally Posted by StueyG

Props to you cataphract for being proud of the fact that you actually WORKED to get something and did not just get the average inscription item like everyone else.

And to think my initial idea behind all the DoA runs was to get a Mini Polar Bear. /facepalm Timing of that Bo was absolutely perfect as I had loads of ecto and the bidding war fun too.

superraptors · Jun 17, 2011, 07:13 PM // 19:13

too bad i can get a bo staff for 6rps 20/20 any mod brah

people are mostly paying for rarity and bragging reasons not for looks in most situations, now tell me why would someone pay 1750e for a swamp club, its a terrible average skin.

yep those inscription weapons aren't rare but they still get good money because the majority likes them as they are decent skins preferred by the majority, its bad to generalize a skin like bds is crap, then otherwise people won't be buying it, right? it doesn't make people automatic idiots if they buy inscriptable weapons, they buy it because they actually like the skin and want to play the game.

inscriptions definitely made finding the perfect non-inscript much harder but its got to also be one of the best additions to please the pvp crowd who wanted to equip there pve chars.

theres alot of ego in here about why non-inscription is superior, but that's just giving people a false perception that they are special just because they have spent years collecting non-inscriptable oldschool rares, which is frankly just sad.

and bo staff is a neat skin but its not amazing other then its rarity, but then again some people have different tastes.

finding non-inscriptables has obviously gotten much harder because majority are playing eotn and nf, so no surprise there...

inscription: looks + perf mods = cheap and usable
non-inscriptable: looks + perf mods = expensive in most cases and sometimes not efficiently usable

so i guess a perf and good skin non-inscriptable = rare in most cases, so in the end your paying that extra ecto for just the rarity, doesn't bother me but a 20/20 heal bo staff on df req is half useless i might say

i think ill know which one to choose (unless i got left overs).

oh and trust me bo staff is a core weapon in asian martial arts irl

cataphract · Jun 17, 2011, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by superraptors

oh and trust me bo staff is a core weapon in asian martial arts irl

Nowai.

carnage-runner · Jun 17, 2011, 07:26 PM // 19:26

[sarcasm] [sarcasm/] Bo staves are cool but I way rather a good ol' raven staff. I'm more of a woodland mystic type, not an asian martial arts type.